tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post9038066473448297107..comments2023-10-02T10:31:13.350+01:00Comments on Gombeen Nation: Medicine in Ireland - an ennobling profession.The Gombeen Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05024662128072120489noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post-14418053605369510082010-07-02T22:16:56.344+01:002010-07-02T22:16:56.344+01:00@Ponyboy. I'd say a his patients probably enj...@Ponyboy. I'd say a his patients probably enjoyed better conditions than some of the poor buggers lying on trollies for days on end here!<br /><br />@ Anon. I can well understand that. You have something to compare our health system too - and it's simply not good enough. Many people here know no better, unfortunately.The Gombeen Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05024662128072120489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post-47065605704382714622010-07-02T09:59:29.573+01:002010-07-02T09:59:29.573+01:00OK, first of all: I really like Ireland, otherwise...OK, first of all: I really like Ireland, otherwise I wouldn't live here. <br />But, if I ever suffer from something other then a broken finger, I get on a plane and fly to a country with something that deserves the term "health care system". The waiting times are just a joke and the state of the medical devices is so very 1980s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post-80930759381452131952010-07-02T05:15:23.713+01:002010-07-02T05:15:23.713+01:00Nice one GM - that's Frank Burns at the 4077th...Nice one GM - that's Frank Burns at the 4077th if I'm not mistaken....Suicide is painless LA LA LA LA many changes but LA LA take or leave it la la la.Ponyboy O'Reillynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post-58821734090197980332010-06-30T23:48:57.987+01:002010-06-30T23:48:57.987+01:00I did see that article in the IT: Among other thi...I did see that article in the IT: Among other things it mentioned that doctors here rigorously stopped each other from advertising as if they did their fees would drop due to competition <br />The stand out fact in it for me was this:<br />Complaints are made to the Irish medical council ( as is also usual in other countries) about treatment people had got from their doctors.<br />Did the Irish medical council investigate them? No it seems- not one: BUT the Irish medical council Zealously and Rigorously followed up Every complaint it received about doctors advertising. Really says it all.annanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post-55013720833511024622010-06-30T23:41:16.395+01:002010-06-30T23:41:16.395+01:00The most famous comments of them all ( about 6 yrs...The most famous comments of them all ( about 6 yrs ago) - picked up with astonishment by the German ambassador was when Mary Harney offered Irish hospital consultants 250,000 a year- and they contemptuously rejected it as ‘Mickey mouse’ money.<br />Here are a few small factoids:<br />*My workmate had an Egyptian surgeon on her street in Castleknock- he worked in Scotland and came backto his family in Castle knock at the weekend: UK had NO problem recognising his qualifications- somehow they weren’t good enough for Ireland.<br />I also met a Sudanese doctor, recently arrived here- who had been put on pay of around 400 a week, (this was 4 yrs ago) as his qualifications were not being recognised.<br /> *About 5 yrs ago the no of training places was increased: BUT up till then ROI had the SAME No as - NI. NI has 1/3 the population.<br />*Recently qualified UK GP earns about 60,000 pounds<br />*Of course if you can’t get in to medical school here- a rich family can afford to send you to USA- I am often amazed to see so many medical certs from USA on doctors walls here. So too bad if you are a working class student whose parents can’t afford to send him to the states.<br />* OF Course the medial profession here needs a huge shake up- they can demand what they like as many work for ‘private’ Catholic Church run hospitals: On that note why are these hospitals Still in church hands? Why does the criminal assets bureau not put them under a CPO and buy them for 1 euro each- to pay for all the compensation they have caused the state?<br />In the novel ‘Amongst women’ the tyrant dad stops his daughter Sheila, in the 60’s from becoming a doctor. And why? because the dad, felt that since the creaiton of the state- that he had fought to set up- the doctors had risen as a Powerful caste to rule over everyone. The Reverse happened in the UK- I think attempts to found the NHS, in the 1940’s were initially resisted by powerful doctors groups- then they mostly fell in line.<br /> And John Mc Gahern was a man who could really look into his heart and know what Irish people really felt, even if they could not articulate it as well as he could.<br />Yes the Irish medical profession are a Disgrace.<br />After all you never hear them worrying too much about health of patients - but always about their pay.annanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post-47440523227046232282010-06-30T09:40:22.647+01:002010-06-30T09:40:22.647+01:00Patriotic? Yeah theres alot of them patriotic here...Patriotic? Yeah theres alot of them patriotic here alright, when money arrives on the scene, then "they'll" be whatever you want them to be.<br /><br />GM, Labour, a disgrace, thats putting it mildly! If any party should have supported these Bills it was them. Very very sad.<br /><br />DakotaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post-23428717028415297722010-06-30T09:05:08.259+01:002010-06-30T09:05:08.259+01:00Yes Dakota. I often wonder how so many gormless id...Yes Dakota. I often wonder how so many gormless idiots in this place can be so patriotic. What are they so proud of, I wonder? Gobshites.<br /><br />On the hunting thing - I think Labour's performance has been a disgrace. It doesn't augur well for any new government, does it?The Gombeen Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05024662128072120489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post-38675985868735427712010-06-30T09:00:26.547+01:002010-06-30T09:00:26.547+01:00Yep, thats the way it is. Welcome to Ireland 2010 ...Yep, thats the way it is. Welcome to Ireland 2010 style. Its a grand place? Oh...just dont get ill!!<br /><br />In an aside GM, oh yes, try to change anything, GM and make it better, such as the health "service" - or anything else for that matter - and you'll get the same rabid response from vested interest groups; as was clearly demonstrated in the reaction to the two Animal Welfare Bills. Where else would you get an all out war by grown men and women, determined to protect their rights to chase an unfortunate, detrified farmed deer around the countryside? Just so they can dress up like English toffs?Where?..... And think its grand? Where would you get it??? All of this when unfortunate individuals are left for days - yes days!! - on hospital trowleys, (there isn't a wimper from the same backbenchers to the collapse in the health service, not to mention the endless list of other things WRONG in this nation) mad scanning machines, etc etc etc etc....... Ohhh its a grand country....Ouhhh grand....<br /><br />DakotaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5829381583204750928.post-92228525177283038792010-06-30T00:51:04.850+01:002010-06-30T00:51:04.850+01:00this is a tragic tragedy GMthis is a tragic tragedy GMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com